Conservatives have long argued that their calls for immigration restriction are race-neutral. Someone in the administration is making this hard to believe.
Trump 2.0 feels like one long grievance rant. There is no greater service here. Rolling back child labor laws shows that this is not about acting in the best interest of working people. It's just feels like people want to remove every scapegoat. But once all the current scapegoats are gone, they will just create new ones anyway.
If a white nationalist created a poster featuring Hello Kitty frolicking in a meadow I might be tempted to pass it along. In fact, after I learned that it was created by a white nationalist I would be even more motivated to forward it to friends.
To crib from literary theory, the content is what matters here and not the author. What if this poster was created by some third grader as part of an art contest? What if the individuals at the government disseminating this image were unaware of its provenance? Would it be any less controversial?
What this whole affair does reveal is the extent of the Millerization of immigration policy under the Trump administration. Language that would have previously been unacceptable is now being advanced by the establishment. I suspect that we have a ways to go before the new vibe burns itself out and starts to reverse.
Most illegal immigrants are darker skinned, and from Latin America. They come here for economic reasons, mostly. One party welcomed them here to boost their vote and census counts, mostly. There were also fringe benefits like cheap yard work and elderly care. Another party is removing them for the same reason, mostly. This party will lose cheap labor at the slaughterhouse (and cheap yard work and elderly care, too). But this party doing the removing also has its eye on increased wages for its native and naturalized (blue collar) citizens, who will benefit from a tighter labor pool. A reset is in motion and the mass deportations of illegal immigrants are part of it. Those that remain are going to be taxed on their remittances sent back to their original Latin homes.
"One party welcomed them here to boost their vote and census counts, mostly"
This is real dumb stuff. And you're almost certainly not that dumb, but you just swallow it despite all the obvious absurdities involved... I just don't get it.
Many Blue States are giving illegal aliens free health care, and cities within those states ‘sanctuary’ status. You’re not so dense to think that this welcome mat is out of pure benevolence, do you?
The result of both Legal and Illegal immigration in 2020 census resulted in net 14 House seat gains in Blue States. Ten of which shifted from Red States (who don’t provide the goodies) and 4 from battleground states (who also largely don’t provide freebies to illegals).
Don’t let historical facts get in the way of your feelings?
They provide health care out of virtue signaling and as an attempted cost saving measure on the basis that it will reduce emergency room visits. This idea that politicians, understood to be motivated either by ideology or short term personal ambition in every other case, are engaging in Machiavellian schemes measured in decades to slightly increase the size of their party's congressional delegation is very silly. But, very well, I'll retract the "almost certainly not that dumb" part if you insist.
It’s funny how the outrage/concern over racial/ethnic identitarianism only goes one way.
Not a word on the long standing racial identitarianism of other groups. See picture.
Until examples like the picture are called out to an insane degree, an increasing number of whites will not care.
You will create the world you fear through one sided bias concern. And no, a brief focus buried multiple paragraphs deep with an obvious intent to feign genuineness doesn’t count. Many people can see where the core concern is since that’s all that’s ever written about. It’s only a problem when one group does it.
PS: “La Raza” means the “The race” as in the Mexican race.
If you care more about the language or from who the poster came (lmao, I guess you shouldn't use words like "nazi" and "fascists" given their origin, or the American flag, or half the things in the world, including English language), than you do about policy and the massive, society-wide issues that immigration causes, it speaks for what type of the person you are. If you think the former is more newsworthy and important than the latter - yes, Tricia is right - it again, shows who you are.
"Look, I think the Biden administration screwed up by being too permissive towards immigration."
Biden immigration didn't "screw up by being too permissive," they actively and deliberately mass imported millions of foreigners. Immigration, in any shape or form, necessarily leads to more crime (each and every crime committed by a foreigner is 100% avoidable), lower wages, more racial conflict across every part of society - economically, culturally, politically - more "racism," more "hate," more "hate crimes," more "diversity policies," more racially-motivated protests, etc. Yet here you are, worried about a poster. Funny.
Well, the reason why so many white nationalists have to post anonymously is because Americans think they are bad people. I don't think they're bad people, more like sick people. But if that's your line that it doesn't matter if someone is horribly racist, don't expect Americans to be open to any other view you have either. Welcome to America. This might work in Hungary or something, but not here!
That would be a compelling view if this was 2010, or 2015, but in 2025 it's stale garbage. I don't think most Americans care about what people post online, but there's a group of people who do - mainly leftists and journos - as could have been seen IRL as well, such as with Covington Kids, whose mass harassment was spurred by journalists much like yourself. Yet, in view of most Americans, they did nothing wrong; as for media, they had to pay millions. We can look at history as well, for example, Charles Coughlin who'd be described much in the same way leftists describe their political opponents today: as racist, nazi, and fascist, yet for many Americans - at least 20 million of them - they quite liked him, didn't they? But that hardly stopped leftists and liberals - much like yourself! - from going after him and trying to ruin him. I'm noticing a pattern. Are you?
"don't expect Americans to be open to any other view you have either"
Wait until you find out whom Americans elected. Twice.
"horribly racist"
^ Case in point. No principles. You lie as you breathe.
Do you think the administration should also post a Swastika? Why exactly are they looking for ideas from white nationalists? Are you suggesting only white nationalists share their (or your) ideas?
No of course not, but I think you’ve missed the point, maybe even got it completely backwards. I agree with you that the co-incidence is not a good look, and that the non-denial is troubling. But you haven’t proved that the administration or DHS actually sought input from white nationalists, only that they found artwork that they liked. I enjoy artwork and entertainment from all sorts of people, many whose politics I’m sure I might despise.
The fact that white nationalists share a plank with a majority of Americans doesn’t make the plank wrong. Any more than the fact that some Dems trade in certain Antifa memes makes all Dems Antifa.
What's the coincidence? Why are they reading an antisemitic, anti-immigrant, anti-black hate account and reposting his content? Maybe their crackdown on immigration is not so race-neutral?
I did look around to see where else it was going before the DHS posted. It was exclusively in white nationalist channels. It seems like someone at the DHS reads them pretty closely and even finds their content useful to them.
C’mon Zaid. The majority of illegal immigrants are dark skinned. That is a fact. A crack down on illegal immigration then, by its very nature, will target the largest group who are illegally here.
Zaid, do you support removal of illegal immigrants from US soil?
I agree w/ you that removing legal status from immigrants that have been granted it is not right, unless there is good reason to do so (such as felony or misdemeanor)
But you haven’t proved they’re reading it. You may believe it, and you’ve got a fair number of bread crumbs, but you haven’t proved it, at least not with what you’ve written here. The “co-incidence” is that the artwork has appeared in multiple places at the same time and may have originated at a white nationalist account. Prove that DHS actually cribbed it from there, that they read or follow that account (which doesn’t itself prove anything more than that they read or follow it, without proving why), and you might have a heckuva story. But you haven’t proved it. Show some skepticism in all directions.
This is the kind of behavior that you wouldn't even see from Giorgia Meloni's interior ministry. Absolutely appalling.
Trump 2.0 feels like one long grievance rant. There is no greater service here. Rolling back child labor laws shows that this is not about acting in the best interest of working people. It's just feels like people want to remove every scapegoat. But once all the current scapegoats are gone, they will just create new ones anyway.
If a white nationalist created a poster featuring Hello Kitty frolicking in a meadow I might be tempted to pass it along. In fact, after I learned that it was created by a white nationalist I would be even more motivated to forward it to friends.
To crib from literary theory, the content is what matters here and not the author. What if this poster was created by some third grader as part of an art contest? What if the individuals at the government disseminating this image were unaware of its provenance? Would it be any less controversial?
What this whole affair does reveal is the extent of the Millerization of immigration policy under the Trump administration. Language that would have previously been unacceptable is now being advanced by the establishment. I suspect that we have a ways to go before the new vibe burns itself out and starts to reverse.
Most illegal immigrants are darker skinned, and from Latin America. They come here for economic reasons, mostly. One party welcomed them here to boost their vote and census counts, mostly. There were also fringe benefits like cheap yard work and elderly care. Another party is removing them for the same reason, mostly. This party will lose cheap labor at the slaughterhouse (and cheap yard work and elderly care, too). But this party doing the removing also has its eye on increased wages for its native and naturalized (blue collar) citizens, who will benefit from a tighter labor pool. A reset is in motion and the mass deportations of illegal immigrants are part of it. Those that remain are going to be taxed on their remittances sent back to their original Latin homes.
"One party welcomed them here to boost their vote and census counts, mostly"
This is real dumb stuff. And you're almost certainly not that dumb, but you just swallow it despite all the obvious absurdities involved... I just don't get it.
Many Blue States are giving illegal aliens free health care, and cities within those states ‘sanctuary’ status. You’re not so dense to think that this welcome mat is out of pure benevolence, do you?
The result of both Legal and Illegal immigration in 2020 census resulted in net 14 House seat gains in Blue States. Ten of which shifted from Red States (who don’t provide the goodies) and 4 from battleground states (who also largely don’t provide freebies to illegals).
Don’t let historical facts get in the way of your feelings?
They provide health care out of virtue signaling and as an attempted cost saving measure on the basis that it will reduce emergency room visits. This idea that politicians, understood to be motivated either by ideology or short term personal ambition in every other case, are engaging in Machiavellian schemes measured in decades to slightly increase the size of their party's congressional delegation is very silly. But, very well, I'll retract the "almost certainly not that dumb" part if you insist.
It’s funny how the outrage/concern over racial/ethnic identitarianism only goes one way.
Not a word on the long standing racial identitarianism of other groups. See picture.
Until examples like the picture are called out to an insane degree, an increasing number of whites will not care.
You will create the world you fear through one sided bias concern. And no, a brief focus buried multiple paragraphs deep with an obvious intent to feign genuineness doesn’t count. Many people can see where the core concern is since that’s all that’s ever written about. It’s only a problem when one group does it.
PS: “La Raza” means the “The race” as in the Mexican race.
Hey man. Any chance you can unblock me on X? I legitimately enjoyed your takes. Thanks. (@burtgurney)
If you care more about the language or from who the poster came (lmao, I guess you shouldn't use words like "nazi" and "fascists" given their origin, or the American flag, or half the things in the world, including English language), than you do about policy and the massive, society-wide issues that immigration causes, it speaks for what type of the person you are. If you think the former is more newsworthy and important than the latter - yes, Tricia is right - it again, shows who you are.
"Look, I think the Biden administration screwed up by being too permissive towards immigration."
Biden immigration didn't "screw up by being too permissive," they actively and deliberately mass imported millions of foreigners. Immigration, in any shape or form, necessarily leads to more crime (each and every crime committed by a foreigner is 100% avoidable), lower wages, more racial conflict across every part of society - economically, culturally, politically - more "racism," more "hate," more "hate crimes," more "diversity policies," more racially-motivated protests, etc. Yet here you are, worried about a poster. Funny.
Journalists are bad people.
Well, the reason why so many white nationalists have to post anonymously is because Americans think they are bad people. I don't think they're bad people, more like sick people. But if that's your line that it doesn't matter if someone is horribly racist, don't expect Americans to be open to any other view you have either. Welcome to America. This might work in Hungary or something, but not here!
That would be a compelling view if this was 2010, or 2015, but in 2025 it's stale garbage. I don't think most Americans care about what people post online, but there's a group of people who do - mainly leftists and journos - as could have been seen IRL as well, such as with Covington Kids, whose mass harassment was spurred by journalists much like yourself. Yet, in view of most Americans, they did nothing wrong; as for media, they had to pay millions. We can look at history as well, for example, Charles Coughlin who'd be described much in the same way leftists describe their political opponents today: as racist, nazi, and fascist, yet for many Americans - at least 20 million of them - they quite liked him, didn't they? But that hardly stopped leftists and liberals - much like yourself! - from going after him and trying to ruin him. I'm noticing a pattern. Are you?
"don't expect Americans to be open to any other view you have either"
Wait until you find out whom Americans elected. Twice.
"horribly racist"
^ Case in point. No principles. You lie as you breathe.
Hitler demanded old age pensions. So old age pensions must be bad.
Yawn.
Also, the old-age pension *was* created in Germany but not by Hitler, its origin is in Bismarck's work. Which was very interesting actually! I wrote a post about it here https://www.theamericansaga.com/p/society-takes-care-of-people-to-prevent
Do you think the administration should also post a Swastika? Why exactly are they looking for ideas from white nationalists? Are you suggesting only white nationalists share their (or your) ideas?
No of course not, but I think you’ve missed the point, maybe even got it completely backwards. I agree with you that the co-incidence is not a good look, and that the non-denial is troubling. But you haven’t proved that the administration or DHS actually sought input from white nationalists, only that they found artwork that they liked. I enjoy artwork and entertainment from all sorts of people, many whose politics I’m sure I might despise.
The fact that white nationalists share a plank with a majority of Americans doesn’t make the plank wrong. Any more than the fact that some Dems trade in certain Antifa memes makes all Dems Antifa.
What's the coincidence? Why are they reading an antisemitic, anti-immigrant, anti-black hate account and reposting his content? Maybe their crackdown on immigration is not so race-neutral?
Even if it started in an anti-semitic place, I suspect it was shared widely and got a lot of hits on a bunch of places, including some normie places.
It's still un-serious and un-professional for the government to repost something like this without understanding its provenance.
I did look around to see where else it was going before the DHS posted. It was exclusively in white nationalist channels. It seems like someone at the DHS reads them pretty closely and even finds their content useful to them.
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They didn't even feed it into AI to at least give plausible deniability. They just took it wholesale. Nothing coincidental about it.
C’mon Zaid. The majority of illegal immigrants are dark skinned. That is a fact. A crack down on illegal immigration then, by its very nature, will target the largest group who are illegally here.
We see them doing things like removing legal status from immigrants who have it, one guess who those immigrants they're doing this for are.
Zaid, do you support removal of illegal immigrants from US soil?
I agree w/ you that removing legal status from immigrants that have been granted it is not right, unless there is good reason to do so (such as felony or misdemeanor)
But you haven’t proved they’re reading it. You may believe it, and you’ve got a fair number of bread crumbs, but you haven’t proved it, at least not with what you’ve written here. The “co-incidence” is that the artwork has appeared in multiple places at the same time and may have originated at a white nationalist account. Prove that DHS actually cribbed it from there, that they read or follow that account (which doesn’t itself prove anything more than that they read or follow it, without proving why), and you might have a heckuva story. But you haven’t proved it. Show some skepticism in all directions.
I'm reading you, and often disagree.