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Eric's avatar

Glad that Zaid is picking up this theme. Watching the ongoing assault on freedom of speech for students who support Palestinian rights has made it clear just how few people actually care about this freedom in any kind of principled way. The constituency for the first amendment is just impossibly small, and the enemies of freedom of speech are constantly angling for a new line of attack. Cracking down on certain ideas because it is 'unprofessional' to express them is going to be the next battle, and it's amazing that few people can see this coming.

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Penny Adrian's avatar

The only reason people like me complain about protests for so called "Palestinian Rights" is because on these same campuses, if ANYONE dared to shout "Trans women are not women" or "Black Lives Matter is a Grift" or "the HIjab is oppressive" every student involved would be expelled and any faculty who participated would be fired.

It's the racist double standard applied to Jews that we complain about.

If it's okay to proclaim "Exterminate the Jews" on college campuses, it should be equally to proclaim "Exterminate the Muslims".

But Jews are being treated as lesser humans on almost all of our Ivy League campuses.

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Eric's avatar

First of all, the central claim your making here is obviously false- the very article you’re commenting on is about a woman who did say basically all of those types of things and only recently got around to experiencing some kind of professional censure- which, while I don’t agree with it, fell well short of being fired. More to the point, the Palestinian rights protests were supported by the majority of Jews on most campuses; the idea that anyone is calling for “extermination” is just completely unhinged fantasy.

But even if that were true, instead of trying to coopt the anti free speech rhetorical tendencies of people you detest, wouldn’t it be better to advocate for freedom of speech for everyone? At a certain point someone has to stand on principle- why not you?

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publius_x's avatar

The reason she didn’t get fired was because Penn started caring about free speech on October 8, 2023.

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Not so young anymore.'s avatar

I don’t see anyone shilling for Hamas losing their right to speak. It’s losing their right to physically keep Jews or Israel supporters from walking freely on campuses. Or hear g speakers who speak out for Israel.

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