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Petty Rage Machine's avatar

One day we’re going to get to the truth and God help all of you hardline vaccine apologists who went to the ends of the earth to defend trillion dollar pharma industries for zero discernible reason.

Perfectly intelligent human beings who just refuse to ask a single question about anything that’s occurred in the past 35 years. Boggles the mind.

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Zaid Jilani's avatar

That seems like a bit of a strawman. There are hundreds if not thousands of studies about vaccines, it's just that the people who are refusing to "ask a single question" don't believe in them and are stuck in a conformist attitude.

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Ximena Duval's avatar

Yes there are lots of studies of vaccines but show me one that is observational and publishes their programs (ie so we can see how case controls were constructed) or show me an RCT with an inert placebo from the foundational studies of children’s vaccines (hint there are none). Or gosh even find a study that is not funded by pharma, a shady pharma promoting org, or one of the agencies that has as their mission to increase vaccination rates. I’m with you that the evidence is weak showing links to autism. And I get being skeptical of the patchouli earthy crowd. But nowhere is there such corrupt and frankly crappy studies as in vaccine research and someone like you ought be able to notice. Seriously look into it starting with finding the aforementioned studies (that do not seem to exist) . My guess is that they need to keep evidence on benefits and harms opaque because the harms are greater than people think. They’re probably not very large but it really ticks me off that we can’t see it and discuss it. We’re adults and it’s our right to make informed decisions about ourselves and our children.

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Zaid Jilani's avatar

It’s fine to study vaccine risks. There are always risks to any medical intervention. However the autism claims are all bunk. None of them have panned out when closely researched.

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Dylan's avatar

Indeed! Thank you Ximena. We need to be able to discuss it. Vaccines work - and also there is harm. I really think what Powell was saying is many who have vaccine harm - overload of neurological toxins - is misdiagnosed as autism. People are BORN autistic. Those who REGRESS after getting a vaccine? Not autistic (imo).

Additionally “autism causing telepathy” is a very simplified take. It doesn’t. Perhaps these nonspeakers have access to it more easily because their senses are further shut off. But it doesn’t CAUSE it.

I have always been able to understand what infants are thinking and feeling - by the descriptions of telepathy in the podcast that’s what it is. I get full pictures in my head about what they need, why they are crying.

My daughter used to read my mind when she was little. A few times it was very obvious. She’s very verbal.

My sister read my mom’s mind - it’s an old family story.

Plus all of Rupert Sheldrake’s research with animals - they are not autistic.

What this podcast is showing - and the nonspeakers is the hook, the bigger picture is the consciousness - is that there is a paradigm shift upon us.

And that’s not new to many of us who are already there.

You aren’t so you’re stuck needing proof - valid. But you’re looking at the wrong things and nitpicking at the wrong part of the story.

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Alex Reynard's avatar

"There are hundreds if not thousands of studies about vaccines"

You assume so, I understand. But look up, "CDC Concedes Never Conducted Vaccinated v. Unvaccinated Study"

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Petty Rage Machine's avatar

FWIW; you aren’t born a “vaccine skeptic.” But some of us eventually have kids in this misbegotten age and then things happen. As a man born in the 70s I had 8 vaccines and an entirely different experience with what was the old FDA and the crap we put into our bodies. My child had 84 and is already addicted to sugar, despite rarely having sweets.

I’ll tell you what, if you aren’t a skeptic of this world and its endless lies then you’re willfully blind and deaf to what is happening. Titling an article to “vaccine skeptics” as if they/we are dog rapists is really just something else.

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Cleb's avatar

This guy is blaming vaccines for being a shitty parent.

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Petty Rage Machine's avatar

How many studies are there on autism and links to ANY childhood vaccine? Dont worry, I’ll wait for your researched response.

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Petty Rage Machine's avatar

How many people smoke and don’t get cancer Zaid? Is that a strawman too?

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Zaid Jilani's avatar

There are hundreds if not thousands of studies showing a link between cancer and smoking. There are zero showing a link between autism and vaccines. There is wild conjecture, mostly. That doesn't make you open-minded, that just makes you close-minded...you've made up your mind and a million studies won't budge you.

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